Dear Darwin & Laura

Greetings from Florida, and 'Yowm Tov!'

It would appear that Brother Lloyd has definite opinions concerning the Hebrew calendar... and perhaps that they don't mesh with your own. I am not a referee, so I won't presume to arbitrate in favor of either bias, but reading this exchange reminded me that I also have studied into this 'calendar controversy.' If I may; I'd like to make a couple of pertinent observations.

Our Savior (Yahoshua) plainly stated that "one yodh or one tittle shall in no way pass from the Torah, till all be fulfilled" (Matt. 5:18). This means that the calendar rules, as found in Torah (Genesis-Deuteronomy) are the ones that are still in force, especially if they are in opposition to rules that man (or men) have devised since that time.

Gen. 7:11-8:4 are a part of Torah. They instruct that the five months spanned from 2-17 to 7-17 measure 150 days. Is there any other reason than disobedience that the 'Hebrew' calendars of our time only allow for approximately 148 days between these dates? The simple answer is "NO!"

A more detailed answer, however; is that the five months (Heb. "chodeshim") are NOT equal to our modern measurement of five 'lunations.' These two terms are NOT synonymous; not any more, anyhow.

First of all, there are not several Hebrew Calendars, there is only one Hebrew Calendar.

The 150 days spoken of in Genesis and the 148 days now on the Hebrew Calendar are both correct.

At the time of the Genesis account the moon cycle was 30 days. Today the moon cycle is more like 29 1/2 days, which means the lunar months will alternate between 29 and 30 days.

There is historical evidence that calendars around the world changed to reflect a 365 day year instead of a 360 day year between the 8th to the 4th centuries BC.

The 8th century BC was a time between 799 BC - 700 BC. This is also the same time period in which the following books of the Bible were written: 2nd Kings, Amos, Hosea, Micah, Isaiah...

In Isaiah 38:8 it states: “Behold, I (God) will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.” For more details see:

It says in Isaiah 38:8 that God turned the sun dial of Ahaz ten degrees backwards. This would certainly be a miracle as any other miracle which God has performed throughout the Bible and it would also provide an explanation as to why people all around the world were changing their calendars between the 8th and 4th centuries BC. This 10 degree change is enough to change both solar and lunar cycles, thus changing our calendars. Please also keep in mind that if God can turn a sun dial backwards by 10 degrees, he can also turn a sun dial forward 10 degrees at some point in the future.

In Revelation it also shows a future time when there will be 30 days in each month. (Revelation 13:5, 11:3, and 12:6)

Torah further instructs (in Lev. 23 as well as Num. 28-29) that YHWH's mo'edim are to be counted out over seven of these 30-day months ...and then the year ends. All of this intricate, convoluted measurement of lunation's; trying to make twelve or thirteen of them somehow equal a 'year' is an exercise in frustration! YHWH plainly states that His 'year' is over at the time of the Feast of Ingathering... TWICE (in Ex. 23:16 & Ex. 34:22)!

The Holy Day season just as the Harvest season both take place over a 7 month period. This however does not delete the rest of the year. The remaining 5/6 months are still a part of an entire year, they just are not a part of the Holy Day season or the Harvest season.

I am not a seer by any definition, so I can't say exactly on what days Yahoshua kept YHWH's mo'edim. I can only imagine that He did all according to Torah. That's the only thing that makes sense. He was, after all; without sin... and sin is practicing lawlessness.

My best to you in your wonderful service to us scattered brethren. YHWH bless you both. I am -- A fellow pilgrim

It would make no sense for God to command us to keep the Holy Days and then not give us a calendar to show when they are. Since the oracles of God were given to the Jews, Romans 3:1-2 and since Christ kept the Holy Day dates as the Pharisees and Scribes kept them, this is where we should look for the calendar used in keeping the Holy Days of God.