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Disfellowshipped in 1985 (10-16-06)

by George E. Padgett (England)

 

Dear Darwin and Laura,

Having read your letter in "The Journal" about brethren being disfellowshipped, I would like to offer my advice.

Today God's Church is a shambles of disunity, hatred, apostasy; neglect caused from wrong teaching, erroneous teaching, in Ambassador College.

What you see before you now is the tail wagging the dog. From the very first meeting I had with a minister in the 1960's, I could tell immediately these people were trained to eliminate the past ways from their minds totally, to the extent that when they had to come face to face with the real world again, they could not adapt properly. In the years at college they were unwittingly protected to the extent they were fearful, unable to properly converse, and unable to face the facts of the real world!

When a minister came to visit, his whole approach was one of not wanting to face reality, but one of forcing what you would say, 'square pegs in round holes'; a pretence that we have a new truth that will be forced upon you and accepted, or you are no good to the church.

In reality, the ministry of the WCG were, and still are, unable to ever believe they have done wrong, regardless of their behaviour and actions.

The teaching of Herbert Armstrong produced shameless, feckless, arrogant, petulant ministers, simply because the brethren, believe it or not, have always faced the problems of the world better than the ministry; and continue to do so.

Why is there so much division, etc. amongst God's people when there is prophesied to be a big falling away,if God's ministers know the truth?

Why has the ministry always forgotten, ignored, disregarded, the fact that God the Father does the calling?

What is a fact is that Jesus Christ is knocking for admission, but is being kept out by Ambassador College - trained ministers!

Another fact is that Jesus Christ is now working with individuals who obey, trust, and believe Him, as opposed to those who feel good and safe belonging to a church or group; where the minister will just simply leave the flock to look after himself. It has happened once, it will happen again.

I was called by God in 1968. After being turned off by two ministers who visited me, I spent over seven years extensively studying the bible. I went to church in 1976, and I found it nothing like the "different from the world" atmosphere. I have always found that the WCG was professing to be so different from the world, but in reality it wasn't even a few steps behind, but was right along with the very ways of the world.

Pretence always surfaces for what it is; a sham. As time went on reality kicked in, and more and more people saw the effects of pretentious, insincere leadership. God's word was replaced by man's.

I dated a single lady in the church, and I was warned about it. Apparently I did not seek the minister's approval!! I continued to do what I knew was my legal entitlement to do, and I had no intention of being shackled by an obscene form of dominance and control.

After a Sabbath service I was asked to go into a private room with the assistant pastor and local elder. I was told that the minister had given permission for me to be kicked out of the church, there and then. The reason? I was ignoring the minister! My reply to this was that he must tell me himself face to face.

The following Wednesday was a bible study given by the minister. I intended confronting the minister about his accusation. After bible study finished he dashed out, and I followed him. I asked him to stop and talk, but he kept walking. Out in the car park he got angry, and said he had passed a message to the elder to pass on to me. I asked why he could not tell me himself, and he got into his car and drove away.

The elder did not approach me that night or the following Sabbath, so when we came to vacate the premises I walked up to the elder's car as he was about to leave. I said to him, 'Don't you have a message to pass on to me?' He said, 'Be at my home tomorrow morning.'

The minister had deceitfully conspired with the elder to remove me from church by saying I had refused to attend a meeting they were not going to inform me about. In the presence of the assistant pastor, minister, and local elder, I told the minister he was deceitful. I was disfellowshipped.

For the next six years I wrote letters and had occasional meetings; always three against one. At one meeting the minister deliberately wound me up, then said, 'I bet you are seething, aren't you?'

Not long after being disfellowshipped, when I wrote my first letter to the minister, he conspired with the church accountant, Francis Bergin, to accuse me of not tithing. I asked Bergin why he was falsely accusing me and he ordered me to photocopy my receipts. I did this and sent them off and asked for an apology. No reply.

After six years of being messed about I wrote to Pasadena for their intervention. After nine months without a reply I wrote back to Pasadena to tell them I was returning to church. Needless to say they replied straight away, but it was too late. I also wrote to the minister, traveled by train about 100 miles, and put it through his letterbox.

I did return to church on the stated day, and the minister stayed away. I did expect to be told to leave, but I had proved a point. The minister was removed from that church and sent elsewhere.

I requested a meeting with the new minister, and, together with the elder, we met in the foyer of a local hotel. Immediately he asked me how long I had been out of the church. When I told him, he said I would have to pay a certain amount for each year; also stating it was new church policy. I asked for a copy of the policy and he said I would have to take his word for it.

I told this minister I did not believe him, then he said that even if I paid it there was no guarantee I would get back to church. He then looked around at the hotel walls and ceiling, got up and walked to reception. Effectively he was finished with me. I got up, told the elder I was disgusted with their behaviour over the years, then I walked away.

Before I met this last minister I phoned a man I knew from the church who readily agreed to meet me and talk. The first thing he asked me was, why was I put out of the church. After all those years nobody had been told the reason.

I was disfellowshipped in November 1985. The minister was David Magowan, who is now in charge over here of COGIC.

I am an ordinary person living in a council flat: I do not have a car nor a computer. I write to brethren who state their address via a P. O. Box number. I receive no replies. I often wonder, when I read The Journal," if people are genuine about what they say, or is it just something to say.

When we see the sad and bad situation with Gerald Flurry's church, it ought to be a wake-up call for the PCG members because it is so obvious that once again, following on from the WCG, it is a case of following man and not God. We read the condemnation of Flurry's laws at the same time we read that he is an avid follower of Herbert Armstrong. Yet, nobody seems to condemn HWA for that very same false teaching.

Do we have someone who can unite the church? No. The ministry has lost its way. We have instead men showing their photographs and speaking very little substance.

God always works with a person until that person dies. This does not in any way signify that person was correct. God put it into the mind of HWA to choose Joseph Tkach, for a very good reason!

You asked for a brief summary, but if I had done that, the real seriousness and truth would be omitted.

I have not covered everything that related to our church, the ministers, and other brethren, but you need to know true facts.

Since 1985 I have not been to a F. O. T. I am, in the words of the assistant minister, a non person who will have to take his chance in the tribulation. Not so, the roles are reversed.

Love and best wishes,

 

 

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