(Marriage & Divorce) (November 23, 2002)
by Tommy West, Wake Forest, North Carolina
TOMMY’S LETTER:
Laura,
Congratulations once again
on an excellent newsletter. The article by Ted Saunders entitled MISSING MERCY AND LOVE INGREDIENTS--PART 2 is outstanding and will
stand up to any comparable article of the so-called "glossy" magazines published by some of the hierarchical groups -- which proves
an irrefutable and significant point: SPIRITUAL TALENTS AND GIFTS ARE NOT LIMITED TO JUST A FEW. WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE TO SHARE IN
THE EDIFICATION OF THE BODY OF CHRIST.
A few days ago. I was scanning the July/August issue of THE CHURCHES OF GOD NEWSLETTER which is published by fellow North Carolinians, Rick and Eileen Beltz, and happened to notice an article you wrote entitled A FRESH LOOK AT MARRIAGE, DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE. While there are many commendable points in the article, it is definitely NOT free from error. Perhaps some other time you will allow me to clarify these errors for you and your readers.
EDITOR'S NOTE:
The article referred to here was also printed in this newsletter in Issue #3, May/June 2001, under it's original title "Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage" and will also be posted on our web site very soon. Again, if anyone finds error in any of our articles, please send us the details. Laura Lee
TOMMY’S LETTER:
It does relate to what this letter is about. I would like to respond to your response to my letter re: Rhoda Foust's article on Divorce and Remarriage which she wrote for your SEPT./OCT. 2002 newsletter. The subject of Divorce and Remarriage is highly controversial within the ekklesia. It is also one of the most abused and/or misunderstood. In your EDITOR'S NOTE: to my letter we read 6. "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder." (KJV)Then you write, "Tommy concludes from this that marriage is for life, and I agree. God's intent from day one was that marriage be for life." THAT'S NOT MY CONCLUSION. THAT'S WHAT JESUS SPECIFICALLY STATED AS WRITTEN IN MATT. 19:6.
EDITOR'S NOTE:
Matthew 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.--I believe I answered this very clearly last time, but again, it says "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." In the last issue I clearly defined how God joins people. You have now written two letters to me, but neither one of them explains how people are joined by God in marriage. Is it by marriage license, contract, sex or by some other means? For my full explanation on this, refer to Issue #12, pages 19-22. Laura Lee
TOMMY’S LETTER:
IN ANY DISCUSSION OF DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE, IT MUST BE NOTED AND REMEMBERED THAT JESUS' POSITION AS ADDRESSED IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IS NOT ONLY DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE PHARISEES AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS OF HIS DAY, IT IS THE ONLY CORRECT POSITION. He came to fulfill the law. Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." (KJV) Fulfil is STRONG'S #4137 pleroo play-ro-o; from 4134; to make replete, i.e. (lit.) to cram (a net) , level up (a hollow), or (fig.) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc. --fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply. THAYER'S definition as used in Matt. 5:17 -- universally and absolutely, to fulfil, i.e. to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfillment. In the matter of Divorce and Remarriage, Jesus "perfected" the law which meant He corrected the stance that Moses took in Deut. 24:1-4 where Moses "allowed" rather than "commanded" divorce.
EDITOR'S NOTE:
I do not disagree with your information quoted from Strong's in regard to the word "fulfil", but there is a problem with what you are saying here. You said "In the matter of Divorce and Remarriage, Jesus "perfected" the law which meant He corrected the stance that Moses took in Deut. 24:1-4 where Moses "allowed" rather than "commanded" divorce." -- The law as stated in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 was not a law that Moses wrote or allowed. Please note the following: Moses wrote down the law as God gave it to him to write down.
Moreover thou leddest them in the day by a cloudy pillar; and in the night by a pillar of fire, to give them light in the way wherein they should go.
Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:
And madest known unto them thy holy Sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant: (Nehemiah 9:12-14)
Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. (Malachi 4:4)
The law clearly was God's law, and Moses was used by God to write it down so we would have it today.----Please also look at this point, there are many references throughout the Bible like the following: Leviticus 11:46 This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth: Did the beasts write their own law or did God just refer to it as the law of the beasts? Leviticus 14:57 To teach when it is unclean, and when it is clean: this is the law of leprosy. Numbers 5:29 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled;----The point is the different laws are named either for who wrote them down/or who God used to command His laws through or for what the law is in regard to. Please also note in:
And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.
And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? (Christ is the one that spoke here clearly using the word command.)
And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. (The Pharisees are speaking here and using the word suffered, which means allowed.)
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.(Mark 10:2-5) (Here, Christ himself calls it a precept, which is a law and/or command, see Strong's #1785 in the Greek.)
They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? (The Pharisees are speaking here and using the word command.)
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. (Here Christ is speaking and using the word suffered which means allowed, and then Christ launches right into the exception clause.)
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away
(for fornication) doth commit adultery. (Matthew 19:7-9) Laura LeeTOMMY’S LETTER:
Neither in your article nor in your response to me did you make reference to Mark 10:1-12 which is a parallel account of Matthew 19:1-9.
EDITOR'S NOTE:
There are many scriptures on many different subjects including this one. When responding to a letter I generally respond to the scriptures which the letter writer brings up within his/her letter, only bringing in other scriptures when needed and as space allows. Laura Lee
TOMMY’S LETTER:
Let's look at those scriptures --
Getting up, He went from there to the region of Judea and beyond the Jordan: crowds gathered around Him again, and according to His custom, He once more began to teach them.
Some Pharisees came up to Jesus, testing Him, and began to question Him whether it was lawful for a man to divorce a wife.
And He answered and said to them, "What did Moses command you?"
They said "Moses permitted a man TO WRITE A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY."
But Jesus said to them,
"Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment."But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE.
"For THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER,
"AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh.
"What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."
In the house the disciples began questioning Him about this again.
And He said to them,
"Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her;and if she herself divorces her husband and marries another man, she is committing adultery."
(Mark 10:1-12 --NASB)Take note here two points: 1. There is no exception clause. 2. Unlike Jewish law, either the man or woman could commit adultery. (It might also be noted that most Bible scholars contend that Mark wrote his epistle first having heard the words directly from the apostle Peter). Also see Luke 16:18, Jer. 3:1, 8, 14
EDITOR'S NOTE:
Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced (because of fornication) committeth adultery. You state that there is no exception clause, may I ask what exactly this is as stated in Matthew 5:32? It is also stated in Matthew 19:7-9:
They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away (for fornication) doth commit adultery.
In both places Christ is the one who stated this exception along with the clear intent from the beginning. If you do not believe these to be exception clauses as you put it, then please explain to all, exactly what these are? Please also explain what fornication is, as explained by the Bible?
Have you heard of the Harmony of the Gospels? If not, it's where different writers will write of the same event, but some writers put in more detail than other writers and this concept is not just confined to the gospels. You will find this throughout the Bible, that is why when we study a given subject we need to take all the clear scriptures into account and many times this will explain more fully those which are not quite so clear. It is never a good idea to take one scripture and try to build an entire doctrine based on one verse. A particular subject should always be considered in context and in respect to all known scriptures on that subject.
Your second point speaks of Jewish law, which I didn't bring up at all, but since you stated your point as you did, let me show you something which comes directly from the Law of God. Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
God always held both the man and the woman responsible for committing adultery. My advise on your point two would be, to be less concerned about Jewish Law and more concerned about God's Law. Laura Lee
NOTE:
In regard to your statement: "(It might also be noted that most Bible scholars contend that Mark wrote his epistle first having heard the words directly from the apostle Peter)." #1--Mark's book is well known by most serious Bible Students as the Gospel of Mark, not an Epistle. #2--"Bible Scholars?" If that can be proven from scripture that Mark heard "the words" as you state here from Peter first, then we need clear scripture that proves that, other wise its just that, contend, which equals "scholars opinion". #3--What are you referring to when you say "the words", the words specifically quoted by you Mark 10:1-12 or all the words that Mark wrote in his gospel called Mark?
Jesus' disciples walked with and were all taught by Him throughout His three and a half year ministry. For someone to make claim that certain disciples only heard certain words of Jesus from another disciple and not directly from Jesus Himself is a bit of a stretch and matters little as to what and how God inspired His writers to write what God wanted written down. Darwin Lee
TOMMY’S LETTER:
There is much more that could be said about this subject but let's chew on this for awhile.
Perhaps you'll decide to print this letter in your next newsletter. Whether you do or not, thanks for allowing me this opportunity.
Tommy West