Why Ask Such a Question? (12-7-06)
by Linda Moers (Hockley, Texas)
(12-7-06)
Lisa Burnett writes:
Please pray that myself, children and husband will be healthy during this holiday season, despite his injury. God, if there is a "Santa", please visit my girls this year. They just lost their grandmother, their dad got hurt and we're not having a Christmas this year. Please provide us with food today and everyday, we're so very tired of being without. With all of the current, negative events in our daughters lives, please, please, please don't allow them to go without on Christmas morning. They are wonderful girls and deserve at least one gift and food to put in their mouths to fill their belly's. Please God, answer our prayers. And to the other readers, please pray for us too. We would love to receive cards/letters/notes in the mail. It allows us to believe that someone cares. Thank you so very much for reading and taking the time to pray for us. God bless each of you. Thank you God!
Lisa Burnett
2316 Erie Avenue
Middletown, OH 45042
(513) 217-6544
**The phone and internet service will be disconnected soon. I apologize, this may inconvenience anyone that would like to contact us via phone or e-mail. Thank You!**
Linda Moers writes:
Why do you post requests such as these?
Laura Lee writes:
First of all I will explain how these lists work one more time. This "Prayer Requests & Updates" list is unmoderated. Unmoderated means that prayer requests are sent to the whole list the minute anyone on this list pushes their send button. These prayer requests are not seen by us first before they go out. We receive them the same time everyone else does.
When people subscribe to our email lists, we do not ask them what religion they are or whether they keep the Saturday Sabbath or some other day. Most of you on this list are Saturday Sabbath keepers and should witness to others. When a person sends such an email prayer request, use the opportunity to witness to them, not to be mad at us or make them feel bad. I do not know what Lisa's background is, but it is possible that she subscribed to this list not knowing we are Saturday Sabbath Keepers or that we do not keep Christmas. Please people cut her some mercy.
When receiving such a prayer request focus not on Christmas, but on how these people just lost their Grandmother, how the husband is injured, and how they have no money for food. And remember that many of you on this list at one time kept Christmas until God called you. Maybe Lisa ended up on this list because she or someone she knows is being called or maybe not.
Note for Lisa Burnett: Lisa most people on this list are Saturday Sabbath Keepers who keep God's Holy Days according to Lev. 23. We consider Christmas to be a pagan holiday which is promoted by Satan to most of the world as a counterfeit of God's Holy Days. There is no place in the Bible where we are ever told to keep Christmas. We follow Christ and Christ was never in Christmas. It would be our prayer that you would come to see Christmas as the Pagan Day that it is and stop celebrating it, but that is between you and God. You are perfectly welcome to stay on this list as long as you like, but please understand also and have mercy for those on this list who do not wish to even hear the word Christmas. Laura Lee
(12-8-06)
Linda Moers writes:
I'm sorry but I don't remember you explaining this before. I understand what unmoderated means. I simply asked a question. I am a little surprised at your response when you know nothing about me or my intentions in asking this question. Chill out! Linda Moers Houston, Texas
Laura Lee writes:
Dear Linda,
We have sent you and the rest of those on our email lists one to several emails explaining or telling you that some of our email lists are unmoderated. Some of these emails have been sent to you with the subject "Information Email" and some have been sent to you when a problem arises on this or other of our lists. We are responsible to send you the information, but you are responsible to read it when you receive it or you won't have a clue what is going on.
Please look at the wording of your question, it reads: "Why do you post requests such as these?" We can tell from the wording of the question what your intent was. You asked the question less than 15 minutes after Lisa Burnett's prayer request was posted, the very wording of the question shows you were upset with her prayer request. You are asking us why we would even post a prayer request like this? So now I ask you, what kind of a prayer request was this that you did not like it? Lisa's mother recently died, her husband was injured and they haven't much food. Since others request we pray for them for similar things and you never asked such a question before, it is not hard to see that you are upset that Lisa's prayer request was also riddled with Christmas requests.
You were surprised about my response to your question, well I was very surprised that a compassionate person who cared about other people would even ask such a question and I am not sure how your back ground applies here. Perhaps you will explain that comment to me so I might understand.
Here is the bottom line, your question hurt another person, a woman named Lisa Burnett. Your question was cutting to the core for a person who was only reaching out to others for help. In my opinion you owe Lisa Burnett a heartfelt public apology. And no I won't chill out when you needlessly hurt another person with such a question which sends the message to Lisa and everyone on the Prayer Requests & Updates list that we only take certain prayer requests or we only pray for certain people.
We sincerely hope you will do the right thing and give Lisa and everyone on the "Prayer Requests & Updates" list an apology. You were out of line.
(12-11-06)
Linda Moers writes:
You have got to be kidding. I don't owe anyone an apology. I was not out of line in asking a question. I would never intentionally hurt or offend anyone but you are right on the line with your accusations.
Laura Lee writes:
No one accused you of intentionally hurting or offending another person. What was said was that you did hurt/offend another person, whether intentional or not it doesn't matter. You were out of line in asking such a question on an unmoderated prayer list. If you are going to ask questions, ask them on our private email not on a public list.
Linda Moers writes:
I wasn't upset with the prayer request but I am upset with you and your judgment of me and the fact that you took the liberty to wax eloquent on what you feel my intentions were.
Laura Lee writes:
More than one person understood the intent of the question. No one is judging you personally, what is being judged is the question that you asked. Again, look at how you worded your question. The intent of the question is really clear and if you were not upset with the prayer request, then why even ask this particular question?
Linda Moers writes:
Again, you have never met me and don't know me or my intentions.
Laura Lee writes:
I don't have to personally meet you to understand the intention shown in the question you asked.
Linda Moers writes:
Where is the love and consideration on your end? Who do you think you are sending me such a scathing email and correcting me according to what you feel my "intentions" were.
Laura Lee writes:
Correction and compassion for others are both done out of love for the other person. Again the question you asked showed clear intent and I wasn't the only one who saw it as implying that we should not send out the kind of prayer requests that mention Christmas in them.
Linda Moers writes:
I feel sorry for anyone who has lost a family member and know quite well what it is like to have your husband not working.
Laura Lee writes:
I am sure you do, but that is not what your question focused on.
Linda Moers writes:
I'm not going to go any further in trying to explain myself because for starters, I don't have to. There are a lot of things I can think of to say but in the spirit of a peaceful reply to you I will restrain my words.
Laura Lee writes:
Explaining yourself would certainly help us to understand why you would ask such a question in the first place.
Linda Moers writes:
I'll be happy to send you my phone number if you want to pursue this discussion further because you are way off base on this one.
Laura Lee writes:
I am sure that if you really want us to understand your question, you wouldn't have a problem doing it via email. However if you want to do it via telephone my phone number is: (701) 258-7172 and the entire telephone call will be recorded. The bottom line here is still that whether intentional or not, the question you asked hurt another person, because the intent written into the question itself was very clear to more than one person. In my opinion you do owe Lisa Burnett and this entire list an apology.
(12-11-06)
Linda Moers writes:
I don't appreciate the way you broke down my email into this context. Looks like you enjoyed this a little too much. Anyway, everyone out there have a good day! I have nothing else to say on this subject.
Laura Lee writes:
I was hoping that you would understand what I was trying to say to you better if I broke it down. I have noticed that you were totally unable to explain why you asked the question in the first place. In no way have I enjoyed this email exchange with you. I think it is most disgusting when you can hurt another person whether intentionally or unintentionally and then not apologize for it when someone brings it to your attention.
(12-11-06)
Linda Moers writes:
I'm sorry, I didn't notice until I went to delete this email that you said if I called you our entire conversation would be recorded. My goodness that sounds rather paranoid. I would be interested in knowing why you would feel recording a conversation would be necessary. I must admit I did get a chuckle out of that one!
Laura Lee writes:
There is nothing wrong with recording a telephone conversation with a person for a witness as to what exactly was said. That way neither of us could embellish on the phone conversation later as there would be an exact record. It isn't paranoid or funny. It is the wise thing to do considering your attitude in regard to this entire matter.